Speak Out: Who Won the Second Presidential Debate?

Tell us: Did President Barack Obama or Gov. Mitt Romney perform better at Thursday's debate? Did the debate strengthen or hurt either campaign?

President Barack Obama and Republican hopeful Gov. Mitt Romney met Tuesday night for their second debate this election season, this time in a "town hall" format that allowed citizens to ask questions on foreign policy, oil and jobs, among other topics.

The debate, at Hofstra University in New York, was crucial for both candidates, who are less than a month out from the Nov. 6 election.

The candidates' running mates debated last week in Kentucky. Many experts said Vice President Joe Biden came out ahead of Republican candidate Paul Ryan in the meeting.

Some said Obama needed to be more aggressive after a performance in the first debate experts dubbed "passive" and "safe." Romney supporters said he needed to maintain the momentum he gained in his first appearance.

Tell us: Who performed better at Tuesday's debate? Were there any questions you would have liked asked? Did the debate strengthen or hurt either campaign? Was there a clear winner?

Lee Hernly October 23, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Will Obama present us with another case of 'heard it all before tonight?' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZgQhnNRSuw
Deborah Kelly October 23, 2012 at 03:05 AM
Don Joy - you are always spot on! Love reading your posts! Can't wait for Election Day but even more super excited to see how well President Romney does in his job as our next President (and having the side benefit of watching the nay sayers eat their own words)! We all want the same thing - a better and stronger America and Romney will make it happen - there is no doubt in my mind it will be better for all of us.
Ann H Csonka October 23, 2012 at 05:07 AM
Being wealthy is fine. It does indeed show that he knows how to make money -- but people need to remember that his "business success" is as a financier, not the type of businessman who actually builds a service or retail company from scratch...interacting with the public, etc. I'm sure some have seen the Daily Show's cool parody on this. It's embedded in this Atlantic article titled: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/10/why-conservatives-dont-really-want-the-us-to-run-like-a-business/263496/
Ann H Csonka October 23, 2012 at 05:09 AM
Thanks...I know where the Congressional Progrssive Caucus list is. What I want to know is where DoJo found it on the Socialist site.
Don Joy October 23, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Thank you very much Deborah! Onward to victory and the restoration of American values under the Romney administration!
Locally Involved October 23, 2012 at 01:02 PM
There have been numerous reviews on the effectiveness of how well business folk do as president. My favorite is from Bloomberg: Bloomberg’s David Lynch argues, quite convincingly, that they aren’t: Since 1900, few former businessmen have made it to the Oval Office. The most prominent was the nation’s 31st president, Herbert Hoover, whose handling of the economy during the Great Depression cemented his reputation as a failure. For me, just look back to Bush 44. Everyone said the same thing he's been a successful businessman (the fact that he drove 3 companies into the ground was ignored)...No. Running a government is different than running a company. And, I say this as a pure blood capitalist of 30 years.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 03:04 PM
Ann, I believe h found it at American Socialist Party. Funny thing is, the site bashes Obama, so I think it was set up to say the Congressional Progressive Caucus was full of communsts. Either on their site o another, itwas stated the Caucus was formed by the Democratic Socialists of America. That is not true, either. It was formed by 6 members of Congress in 1991, because they felt the Democratic agenda was not doing enough to bring everyone into the process. Tea Partiers are an offshoot of the Republican Party for entirely different reasons, and all of this communist nonsense comes from their sites. Allen West appears prominently in the communist scenario.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Rk, you have shown your hand! Don Joy makes wild, unfounded statements, and you say not one word. Every day, accuses Democrats of being communists, Obama of being a traitor, and now he's claiming Iraqis were responsible for the Oklahoma City attack. Oh, yeah, his hero is Jerome Corsi who has built a career on conspiracy theories.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Mr. Joy, if you think Romney is going to be elected by landslide, why continue with the personal attacks?
Locally Involved October 23, 2012 at 04:08 PM
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” ― Socrates
Kathy Keith October 23, 2012 at 04:25 PM
Locally, I agree with this statement by Socrates. That is why I am now convinced that Romney will win. Last night, after the debate, I listened to Chris Matthews attack Romney supporters at the lowest level. When he said those things, while very sad to see a commentator sink so low, I knew that Romney was winning.
Locally Involved October 23, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Kathy, Chris Matthews makes no bones about his liberalism. So, of course, one would discount his comments bashing Romney just as one does when a Fox pundit bashes Obama. Watching other channels for response to the debate (such as PBS, CSPAN, and both sides on CNN) - I did not hear any bashing of either candidate. And, really, was there ever any doubt you'd be voting Romney? I think those that were already decided, the debate did not change their vote. As for those undecided, just looking for something to convince them of whatever way they already lean.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 08:09 PM
According to Wahington Post, a man was arrested in Harrisburg, VA, on Monday and carged with 13 counts of voter registration fraud. He was working for Pinpoint, a company under contract with the Republican Party to register voters.
Deborah Kelly October 23, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Give it up Cheryl - you're supporting a lost cause. You said you saw this in the Washington Post - The Washington Post of all places! So how accurate do think that article really is! I've heard of an entire bus load of mentally infirm nursing home patients "being taken and instructed to Vote for Obama" not in Virginia but from a lady in Virginia whose mom lives in a nursing home out of state - I believe it was Indiana. All these things will be investigated and just maybe there is some truth to the Washington Post article, but I NEVER take their paper at face value. You are beginning to sound desperate!
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 08:40 PM
Chris Wallace of FoxNews incorrectly said Obma had a "filibuster proof". Senate for 2 years. The correct number is 133 days, the time between the death of Sen Kennedy and the time the seat was taken by Sen Brown. Also just for those geography buffs, Iran is not Syria's "path to the sea," as Romney said last night. There's a country called Iraq between Syria and Iran.
Kathy Keith October 23, 2012 at 08:51 PM
No, there was never a doubt. My views are fiscally quite conservative, although I am more liberal socially. Did you listen to Matthews--he said that the Romney supporters are racist. He implied that they are ALL racist. For a number of years I taught school--several of those years were in schools that were almost exclusively African American. Later, I taught in schools that were quite mixed racially. Never did I teach in affluent schools or in schools that were not diverse. I am deeply concerned about the state of our inner cities. To say that I am a racist because I prefer the policies of Romney is deeply offensive and troubling. Matthews stepped way over the line with his rant. There may be people voting against Obama because of his color--but no where near as many as are voting FOR him because of his color.
Kathy Keith October 23, 2012 at 08:59 PM
Iran does use Syria as a port on the Mediterranean. Yes, the tip of Iraq is between Iran and Syria, but without the port in Syria, it would be very difficult for Iran to maintain a presence in the Med.
Mike October 23, 2012 at 09:00 PM
Overall, I think the real losers of the debate were all of us. We really just saw what opposing views between coke and pepsi, thanks to the Commission on Presidential Debates. These are debates, why aren't they represented with 3rd party candidates such as Gary Johnson, Jill Stein, etc. dialogue and discussion is a good thing, reaffirming talking points is lame. For those interested, C-SPAN is having a 3rd party debate at 9PM 10/23.
Mike October 23, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Kathy is correct, access to the Mediterranean is facilitated through Syria. Correct that could have been clarified better during the debate, but Kathy is 100% correct.
Mike October 23, 2012 at 09:04 PM
and I hope they nail that scumbag to the fullest extent of the law, as I would expect the same treatment be given to some SEIU miscreant.
Deborah Kelly October 23, 2012 at 09:05 PM
Amen Don. And to oldtowner I guess you haven't seen the parade floats of "our respected leaders" overseas. Google it sometime to see what they think of the "jokes that we've had for Presidents". You can see both Bill Clinton (grabbing the breasts of the Lady Liberty) and Obama depicted in a number of different satirical ways. Bush was far more respected than Obama could ever even dream to be overseas even though there may have been a parade float of him too! Just Google it. I've been to Italy and France in the past few years (France this summer) and basically they think we (Americans) are stupido! We are seen as stupid Americans for having elected these "leaders" and the "leaders" are seen as big jokes! We have become the joke of the world - like I've said before, those countries who looked up to America for HOPE have lost their HOPE.
Mike October 23, 2012 at 09:06 PM
I cannot believe msnbc tries to pass off that gaggle of morons as journalists. They make fox news look good, and I am not a huge fan...with the exception of John Stossel.
Locally Involved October 23, 2012 at 09:24 PM
Oh, yes, Cheryl - Kathy is right - who needs a Pulitzer prize journalism winning paper like WaPo when you can get the really crazy stuff on Washington Times, Examiner, wnd.com, dailycaller.com. Heck, do they still publish the National Enquirer? LOL. The only time the right credits the MSM is when they can find some tidbit to support their own bias. I'll trust reliable, journalistic news sources. Cheryl, you know you're right. No need to engage the far right if you're looking for a real dialogue. They'll vote how they'll vote and the rest will vote their own conscience.
Lee Hernly October 23, 2012 at 09:54 PM
Deborah - Not Larry Sabato was the first to break the story a few days ago. http://notlarrysabato.typepad.com/doh/2012/10/virginia-gop-caught-destroying-voter-registration-forms.html Kudos to the Republican sheriff in the case for making an arrest already. It sounds like the person charged is not the brightest bulb...
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Syria does not share a border with Iran. And, Deborah, you don't really believe Fox reports anything negative about Republicanst, do you? They're good about lying about aobama an his supporters. I'm sure you got your info about Obama's supposedly filibuster-proof Senate from Chris Wallace. Guess what? He is wrong. You denigrat the Washington Post and expect me to take you seriously when you heap praise on Mr. Joy and parrot Fox News? You and Mr. Joy can just continue patting each other on the back for your abject hatred of the President, your contempt for his supporters, and your smug satisfaction in declaring Romney thwinner. I, for one, love this country and respect this president, and I will continue working for his re-election.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Kathy, to say more people of color are voting for Obama because of his color than are voting against him because of his color is insulting. At least, you managed to insult ll Obama voters. I give you credit for that.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Ah, just because you say it doesn't make it so. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9626092/US-election-Most-countries-want-to-see-Barack-Obama-re-elected.html.
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Even Romney's own campaign realizes what a gaffe the Syria comment was. http://washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/22/fact-check-irans-route-to-the-sea/.
Locally Involved October 23, 2012 at 11:03 PM
There is just a rash of GOP registration fraud of late all over from FL, VA, PA, OH, AZ. Note, except for AZ - all are swing states. If this is the GOP plan to win the election, they don't deserve anyone's vote. Apparently, they can't run on a platform that wins, so .....
Cheryl Darby October 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM
Locally, Nathan Sproul is still at it. He is hiring people to "identify conservative voters" in a number of states. He says he's not being paid by the Republican Party. Right....


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