President Barack Obama and Republican hopeful Mitt Romney met Monday night for their third and final debate this election season, this time coming to the same table to answer questions on national security, the war in Iraq and jobs overseas, among other topics.
The candidates also sparred on military spending, with Romney making a case for an expanded Naval fleet in a plan to increase military spending.
Obama, who says he's met with military leaders to develop a reduced budget for the country's armed forces, said Monday that Romney's hike is money "our military doesn't need," noting the country also has " fewer horses and bayonets."
"We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines," Obama said.
The debate, in Boca Raton, Fla., was the last chance for both candidates to make a pitch to undecided voters across the country just two weeks before Election Day on Nov. 6.
The score, before Monday night's debate, was 1-1, experts say: Romney largely took the first debate, while Obama performed better in the candidates' second meeting at Hofstra University in New York.
Tell us: Who performed better at Monday's debate? Were there any questions you would have liked asked? Did the debate strengthen or hurt either campaign? Was there a clear winner?
Was nice knowing you guys (well, some of you guys) :)
But then when the national election was between Obama and Romney, the mention of his religion was rarely ever heard about again. But what you mainly saw from the conservatives were these same portrayals of Obama as some sort of "other." Actually, not even a singular "other," but painting him as some other religion, some other nationality, some other completely different political philosophy, etc. This is the strongest tool that the Republican party has to fight their political races and to divide the country by compartmentalizing people into these groups with varying and conflicting (and mostly fictitious) agendas. For anybody who was spewing such vile rhetoric on sites like Patch, at family picnics or at the local pub, no matter what "greater good" that you perceived and used to justify it in your head, I think that today is a day for looking in the mirror as the whole Republican party ought to be doing right now. Yesterday, this great nation rejected that way of thinking.
By every measure, Romney won moderates and disenfranchised republicans - because he is and has been center right. Because he has managed to be center right, he has disappointed the 'left', and the far right was counting on that disappointment to be in their favor. Wrong. This is the silent majority mentioned. This time, it is the moderates for the democrats. Shall we say, Obama republicans and moderates. Simply look at Opensecrets.org. Very obviously by Romney's own reported figures, 80% of all the money came from "big" donors, v 67% for Obama. Then review where that money came from for Romney - almost exclusively from hedge funds, capital funds, trading houses and other financial institutions. Contrast that to Obama's broad based fund sources. Romney was a single note candidate. That's what has been consistently stated throughout the campaign and is proven by the money sources. He represented only one singular interest. Obama won simply because he represented ALL the people. Okay, not the far right. Unless there is a GOP regroup, 2016 will be another democrat president. Simply reflect on the numbers. They've been telling the story all the time.
Although that "B" alliteration reminds me that Benghazi-gate may still get Obama, as well it should. His liberal, lapdog media and Hurricane Sandy kept it out of the news the last days before the election, but we thankfully retained the House and Congressional committee hearings there will hopefully get to the bottom of Benghazi-gate once and for all. Perhaps we should all reconvene here after ObamaCare's 20-something new taxes on the middle class kick in, Obama still doesn't know how to compromise or fix our economy, his over-regulation is still strangling business, etc., and see how our liberal friends feel about being fooled -- again -- then. Remember, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
2000-- Bush, 271 ev; 50,456,002 pv -- Gore, 266 ev; 50,999,697 pv. 2004-- Bush, 286 ev; 62,040,610 pv -- Kerry, 251ev; 59,028,444 pv. 2012-- Obama, 303 ev; 60,346,821 pv -- Romney, 206 ev; 57,559,156 pv. Now, if you want to throw out the electoral votes, you are eliminating the smaller states' impact on the election. Also, Gore would have won the election in 2000 because he won the popular vote. This idea that Western Civilization isvcrumbling is absurd, and is one of those talking points I've heard often from the right. I don't understand what that means. Democrats did not demonize Romney on the choice issue. He did that by declaring he wanted to see Roe v, Wade overturned. To say the President an Democrats are restricting religious freedom is also absurd. We are the big-tent party and welcome all cultures and religions. We don't divide into special-interest groups; we are diverse and comprise different interests. I don't have to compromise my beliefs, but I am tolerant of beliefs I don't share.
Seems like Jody, Joe B., DoJo and the rest will need to create their own party, because the GOP will cut off that limb to save its own life. As well it should. The far right has been made irrelevant by their own hand (and stances). Apparently, God didn't want to save them. To assume God was defeated by the 'left', well, that just doesn't make sense. He is all powerful and all knowing. To reject the results of the election is to refute the Lord's decision (for my neighbors of belief who choose to refute the election results).
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/obama_the_moderate_republican_what_the_2012_election_should_teach_the_gop.html Sadly, the far right doesn't u/stand and they never will (which is why I choose not to, and try not to, respond to their silly comments). A strong 2 party system is necessary, but if the GOP continues to allow the far right to hold them hostage. We've seen this retro GOP only talk to themselves, even poll only themselves, ignoring the changing face of America. The inclusiveness of America. They are truly blind. Denying facts and numbers. Foxcon and their viewers were literally stunned last night! I see a lot of parallels between this and the democratic 'McGovern" moment when we pulled too far to the left for the country. Dems basically was sent to wonder the political desert for 40 years (with some respites). I see that coming for the GOP. These things go in cycles. And, this too will past. As I've stated, their irrelevant. The rest of us will continue to move Forward. Proud to be an American and proud of America - wish the far right was. But, America's going forward with or without them! Thanks so much for your civil insights and 'board' friendship!
I know that I am not saying anything that everybody doesn't already know, I am just emphasizing why Republicans lost when all they can do is make such vapid and transparent arguments.
Hope and change, laughably, again, the far right cannot come up with an original idea. Yes, I am doing a bit of a victory dance. A victory dance for the democratic process and America.
There's lots of us. We're not irresponsible. We have pretty homes, lovely kids, paid bills and all. We also realize that not everyone has those benefits. We seek to support all and not force our religious or otherwise beliefs on others. So please STOP forcing your negative, biased, horrible thoughts and beliefs on others. Your views have been recounted in every decade in every century since the beginning of time all touting the end of times and civilization as we've know it. Well, still waiting. We'll be just fine. So chill out!
I am sorry, but I have to meet somebody for late night cocktails, so I am am tagging this thread to try and come back to hear more from this Jody person. I can tell that there are some gems floating around in this person's dome.