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Speak Out: Who Won the Third Obama-Romney Debate?

Tell us: In last meeting before the Nov. 6 election, which presidential candidate performed best in Monday's debate?

President Barack Obama and Republican hopeful Mitt Romney met Monday night for their third and final debate this election season, this time coming to the same table to answer questions on national security, the war in Iraq and jobs overseas, among other topics.

The candidates also sparred on military spending, with Romney making a case for an expanded Naval fleet in a plan to increase military spending.

Obama, who says he's met with military leaders to develop a reduced budget for the country's armed forces, said Monday that Romney's hike is money "our military doesn't need," noting the country also has " fewer horses and bayonets."

"We have these things called aircraft carriers and planes land on them. We have ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines," Obama said.

The debate, in Boca Raton, Fla., was the last chance for both candidates to make a pitch to undecided voters across the country just two weeks before Election Day on Nov. 6.

The score, before Monday night's debate, was 1-1, experts say: Romney largely took the first debate, while Obama performed better in the candidates' second meeting at Hofstra University in New York.

Tell us: Who performed better at Monday's debate? Were there any questions you would have liked asked? Did the debate strengthen or hurt either campaign? Was there a clear winner?

oldtowner November 07, 2012 at 04:14 AM
and Claire McCaskill defeats Akin and Iowa for Obama...and I just heard they called OHIO FOR OBAMA.....!!!!! If that's true.....OBAMA WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Was nice knowing you guys (well, some of you guys) :)
Cheryl Darby November 07, 2012 at 04:20 AM
It's been a pleasure, oldtowner. You saved my sanity on a number of occasions. Thank you and godspeed.
Cheryl Darby November 07, 2012 at 04:22 AM
Thanks to the editors of this thread. I know you had a huge task, and you did a great job. To all posters, let's put our love of country first, before party. If we work together, we all win. I wish the best to you all.
oldtowner November 07, 2012 at 04:24 AM
and thx to you too, Cheryl....keep the faith!
Watts November 07, 2012 at 05:00 PM
Do you have any photos of the party posted on flickr? I'd love to see how this went.
Watts November 07, 2012 at 05:05 PM
It is the conservative agenda to objectify people as "others." You could see it even with the handling of Romney. When did we most hear about Romney was a Mormon? It was during the Republican primaries. Even if it was the repeated "Oh, the fact that he is a MORMON doesn't bother me;" constantly making sure that his religion was at the front of every discussion, almost like a backhanded compliment, keeping it out there as a dog whistle because they knew that it struck a chord in the base. But then when the national election was between Obama and Romney, the mention of his religion was rarely ever heard about again. But what you mainly saw from the conservatives were these same portrayals of Obama as some sort of "other." Actually, not even a singular "other," but painting him as some other religion, some other nationality, some other completely different political philosophy, etc. This is the strongest tool that the Republican party has to fight their political races and to divide the country by compartmentalizing people into these groups with varying and conflicting (and mostly fictitious) agendas. For anybody who was spewing such vile rhetoric on sites like Patch, at family picnics or at the local pub, no matter what "greater good" that you perceived and used to justify it in your head, I think that today is a day for looking in the mirror as the whole Republican party ought to be doing right now. Yesterday, this great nation rejected that way of thinking.
Jody November 07, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Don Joy, Thanks for the invite- sorry I didn't see it until today- and thank you for your love of country and for expressing our deep disagreements with this President and the radical left. Don't despair! Let's keep working for the hope and change that we want!
Jody November 07, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Sad day for America. We almost did it! Thank God we retained the House and a majority of state governors and that most of America is red with large population centers of blue. We can't give up-- our children deserve better. Signing off, Jody
Cheryl Darby November 07, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Jody, the President's win was decisive. Don't delude yourself about that. The President won an overwhelming number of electoral votes. This is the last Presidential election Republicans can be competitive in if they continue to exclude minorities and women, and let the Tea Party put forth candidates like Akin and Mourdock. The Democratic Party is not the "radical left." The Republican Party is so far to the right, the center looks left. If Tea Partiers continue to be obstructionists, mainstream Republicans need to step up and reclaim their party and work with Democrats to move this country forward, if they don't, the Republican Party is done.
Locally Involved November 07, 2012 at 06:30 PM
Cheryl is absolutely correct. There has been significant discussion about the far right. By simply reviewing the numbers - Obama won a mandate by the people with both the electoral and popular vote by substantially more than the 537 votes out of 100M cast that Bush redux squeaked out (and yet proclaimed a mandate.) By every measure, Romney won moderates and disenfranchised republicans - because he is and has been center right. Because he has managed to be center right, he has disappointed the 'left', and the far right was counting on that disappointment to be in their favor. Wrong. This is the silent majority mentioned. This time, it is the moderates for the democrats. Shall we say, Obama republicans and moderates. Simply look at Opensecrets.org. Very obviously by Romney's own reported figures, 80% of all the money came from "big" donors, v 67% for Obama. Then review where that money came from for Romney - almost exclusively from hedge funds, capital funds, trading houses and other financial institutions. Contrast that to Obama's broad based fund sources. Romney was a single note candidate. That's what has been consistently stated throughout the campaign and is proven by the money sources. He represented only one singular interest. Obama won simply because he represented ALL the people. Okay, not the far right. Unless there is a GOP regroup, 2016 will be another democrat president. Simply reflect on the numbers. They've been telling the story all the time.
Locally Involved November 07, 2012 at 06:32 PM
Second that Kudos to Patch editors! Can we assume the Patch editors are fervently wishing this thread FINALLY stops! LOL. Enjoy the respite, you deserve it.
RME KRNL November 07, 2012 at 06:41 PM
I agree, Jody, a sad day for our country, but we fought the good fight and must now carry on as best we can. We couldn't dissuade the liberals here with reason, facts or by asking questions about their guy which they didn't want to answer or admit, just as it seems the special interest groups which Obama targeted and cobbled together were enough to reelect him, despite his small ball campaign of no new ideas and such petty and distracting shiny objects as Romney's taxes, Romney's wealth, Romney's wife's horse, Big Bird, Binders of Women and Bayonets. Although that "B" alliteration reminds me that Benghazi-gate may still get Obama, as well it should. His liberal, lapdog media and Hurricane Sandy kept it out of the news the last days before the election, but we thankfully retained the House and Congressional committee hearings there will hopefully get to the bottom of Benghazi-gate once and for all. Perhaps we should all reconvene here after ObamaCare's 20-something new taxes on the middle class kick in, Obama still doesn't know how to compromise or fix our economy, his over-regulation is still strangling business, etc., and see how our liberal friends feel about being fooled -- again -- then. Remember, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
James November 07, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Wow, this discussion is still plaguing the "What people are saying..." There elections are over and no minds will be changed. Please lock this discussion since that 3rd debate was weeks ago.
Jody November 07, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Decisive? With that slim margin of popular votes? Are you aware that our Constitution assigns electoral votes based on population counts and not a count of actual CITIZENS? (look it up-- high illegal alien states get more electoral votes) The GOP isn't dividing up the citizenry into special interest groups and promising them special deals if that's what you call excluding minorities. Minorities flock to the Democrat party because the Democrat party is the party of big government, big labor, and is quick to embrace the present and disregard thousands of years of steady human progress, tradition and thought (i.e. Western Civilization). Yes, we'd like to "conserve" that. The radical upheaval of the sixties led to all sorts of problems and issues for our society that we're still trying to recover from. The only area I agree with you about is abortion; no matter how much the far-right would like to legislate morality and decrease promiscuity, abortion should unfortunately remain legal. I believe a majority of Republicans are pro-choice and we'll be able to release the religious right's anti-abortion grip now that we see how successfully the left can use this issue to demonize us. Congratulations & hope you enjoy four more years of economic cliff hanging while Obama tries to remake the foundations of our government and society.
Cheryl Darby November 07, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Jody, presidential elections results: 2000-- Bush, 271 ev; 50,456,002 pv -- Gore, 266 ev; 50,999,697 pv. 2004-- Bush, 286 ev; 62,040,610 pv -- Kerry, 251ev; 59,028,444 pv. 2012-- Obama, 303 ev; 60,346,821 pv -- Romney, 206 ev; 57,559,156 pv. Now, if you want to throw out the electoral votes, you are eliminating the smaller states' impact on the election. Also, Gore would have won the election in 2000 because he won the popular vote. This idea that Western Civilization isvcrumbling is absurd, and is one of those talking points I've heard often from the right. I don't understand what that means. Democrats did not demonize Romney on the choice issue. He did that by declaring he wanted to see Roe v, Wade overturned. To say the President an Democrats are restricting religious freedom is also absurd. We are the big-tent party and welcome all cultures and religions. We don't divide into special-interest groups; we are diverse and comprise different interests. I don't have to compromise my beliefs, but I am tolerant of beliefs I don't share.
Locally Involved November 07, 2012 at 09:31 PM
There you go again, Cheryl - being correct and rational! Lest we forget, Obama won the toss-up states and the Senate races ( republicans in MO, IN, WI, IL, PA, and WA - all defeated) - dislodging the right wing men. Apparently a woman's body does have a way of 'shutting things down' and the Senate is now a 'binder full of women' serving more than ever. Seems like Jody, Joe B., DoJo and the rest will need to create their own party, because the GOP will cut off that limb to save its own life. As well it should. The far right has been made irrelevant by their own hand (and stances). Apparently, God didn't want to save them. To assume God was defeated by the 'left', well, that just doesn't make sense. He is all powerful and all knowing. To reject the results of the election is to refute the Lord's decision (for my neighbors of belief who choose to refute the election results).
Cheryl Darby November 07, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Locally, it just drives me up a wall to hear the Western Civilization nonsense. And Republicans seem to have selective memory about election results, specifically 2000.
Locally Involved November 07, 2012 at 10:45 PM
I know, but we need to remember these far right comments are just that - far right. I know many moderate republicans who are hoping there will be serious soul-searching and re-grouping. Each voted for Obama this time. There was a great article today in Slate: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2012/11/obama_the_moderate_republican_what_the_2012_election_should_teach_the_gop.html Sadly, the far right doesn't u/stand and they never will (which is why I choose not to, and try not to, respond to their silly comments). A strong 2 party system is necessary, but if the GOP continues to allow the far right to hold them hostage. We've seen this retro GOP only talk to themselves, even poll only themselves, ignoring the changing face of America. The inclusiveness of America. They are truly blind. Denying facts and numbers. Foxcon and their viewers were literally stunned last night! I see a lot of parallels between this and the democratic 'McGovern" moment when we pulled too far to the left for the country. Dems basically was sent to wonder the political desert for 40 years (with some respites). I see that coming for the GOP. These things go in cycles. And, this too will past. As I've stated, their irrelevant. The rest of us will continue to move Forward. Proud to be an American and proud of America - wish the far right was. But, America's going forward with or without them! Thanks so much for your civil insights and 'board' friendship!
Watts November 07, 2012 at 10:58 PM
Am I the only one who thinks that it is funny that the phrase "hope and change," that Republicans mocked, is now one that they use?
Watts November 07, 2012 at 11:03 PM
So how did you feel about all of this when Bush had fully lost the popular vote and only won the electoral college by one vote and even that, only after a recount battle in the state that his brother governed and handed over by a conservative lead Supreme Court. I know that I am not saying anything that everybody doesn't already know, I am just emphasizing why Republicans lost when all they can do is make such vapid and transparent arguments.
Locally Involved November 07, 2012 at 11:09 PM
oh, Watts - I'm still laughing at the comment that the radical upheaval of the 60's led to all sorts of problems! Like, equal rights for women and minorities. Must be a HUGE problem since it was THOSE cohorts that went Obama. No wonder the far right is upset! Sharia law for all? Burqua's for all? Hope and change, laughably, again, the far right cannot come up with an original idea. Yes, I am doing a bit of a victory dance. A victory dance for the democratic process and America.
Jody November 07, 2012 at 11:50 PM
I was talking about the demise of marriage in a new age of casual sex, swinging, porn, etc. and a new self-absorbed me generation more concerned with living it up with sex, drugs, and living an immature hedonistic life where one never grows up. Of course I wasn't talking about the much needed women's movement or the civil rights movement, but I know you would assume the worst. Western civilization is crumbling and the libs are hastening its exit in exchange for votes. I wish Gore had won in 2000-- maybe we could have avoided the disastrous two terms of Bush which led to the disastrous election of Obama. My party's platform is too far to the right although I trusted Romney not to carry it out and alienate the public. I'm sorry you can't see how far-left the dems have become; your party certainly isn't as benign and enlightened as you think it is. Still can't decide whether Obama looks more like Malcolm X or Frank Marshall Davis.
Locally Involved November 08, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Oh, Jody - get off of it! I was having great sex, drugs, rock'n roll and all that great stuff in the 70's and 80's! Sounds like you should have and you wouldn't be so uptight. I put myself through school graduated with 2 degrees top of my class, paid all my own school loans working 2 jobs through school and went on to live a perfectly responsible life. There's lots of us. We're not irresponsible. We have pretty homes, lovely kids, paid bills and all. We also realize that not everyone has those benefits. We seek to support all and not force our religious or otherwise beliefs on others. So please STOP forcing your negative, biased, horrible thoughts and beliefs on others. Your views have been recounted in every decade in every century since the beginning of time all touting the end of times and civilization as we've know it. Well, still waiting. We'll be just fine. So chill out!
Cheryl Darby November 08, 2012 at 12:22 AM
Jody, your last sentence shows how you have bought into the right-wing demonization of the President, and it negates anything else you say. I don't know where you are encountering swingers, casual sex, etc. I personally don't know anyone who fits tht description. You're assuming the use of contraception means you must be engaging in something immoral. It probably would shock you to know the number of marrued women use contraception for family. You must see the Democratic Party as far left because we think every couple in love should be able to marry, even if that couple is of the same sex; we do believe abortion should be an option for women; we believe in diversity and champion humane immigration reform. If you see these as far-left issues, that is your right. For those of us in the Democratic Party, we see ourselves as living in the real world and not thinking it is our job to dictate to others how they should live their lives. To make cracks about the President's heritage now or anytime shows how willing you are p to judge others based on the hate-filled rhetoric that really has no place in the "Western Civilization" you prize so highly.
Jody November 08, 2012 at 01:45 AM
I was describing the swinging scene of the 60's from the earlier post. That got me thinking about the famous photos available on the web and the parentage question a lot of people would love to know the answer to. Just trying to understand our president better. I wasn't assuming anything about contraception nor did I mention it. I'm just enjoying my politically incorrect free speech before you oh-so-benign liberals outlaw it.
Kim November 08, 2012 at 02:01 AM
Jody, I couldn't let your comment about "illegal alien states" having more electoral votes stand. Don't Texas and Arizona have the biggest illegal immigration problem in the country? And didn't those states' electoral votes go to Romney?
Watts November 08, 2012 at 05:15 AM
OMG, this Jody person is really nuts, isn't she? I thought that I had flushed them all out, but as the herd thins after the election, some of these others become more apparent. I am sorry, but I have to meet somebody for late night cocktails, so I am am tagging this thread to try and come back to hear more from this Jody person. I can tell that there are some gems floating around in this person's dome.
Deborah Kelly November 08, 2012 at 08:31 PM
Don, the Retropubs still need to get together. Maybe Friday or Saturday night? Jody didn't see your post till yesterday. We should see if we can get everyone together for a drink somewhere. Hope your keyboard is working now!
Demoncrat November 08, 2012 at 08:51 PM
@KEL - Very classy with the "Retropubs." It's a nice "Demoncratic" touch.
Jody November 10, 2012 at 01:09 AM
The fact is true regarding electoral votes. Did the crack down on illegals in Arizona cause flight to other states? I think California has more illegals than any other state.

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