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Fairfax County Teachers: 'I Can't Sustain This'

In town hall meeting with school board members Monday, teachers ask for solutions to workload and morale issues that, after half a decade, are as "worse as they've ever been."

Dan Hale has been a teacher in Fairfax County Public Schools for 20 years, but he’s never felt or seen his colleagues as overwhelmed as they are today.

He used to know his students as readers and as writers, he says; now he only knows them as bits of data or ECART scores; pacing points and percentages.

And after spending far more than eight hours at school, he leaves (with work in tow) thinking ‘What am I doing tomorrow?’ — planning time in the context of the school day, he says, is nearly nonexistent.

The story was one of many shared by a few hundred teachers Monday night at a town hall sponsored by one of the county’s largest teachers unions, an effort to better connect school board members with teachers and workload issues that have persisted for at least half a decade, the union says.

For years, both the Fairfax County Federation of Teachers, which sponsored Monday’s event, and the Fairfax Education Association have asked school board members for help in reducing some of their requirements and responsibilities and the shrinking amount of time in which they have to do it.

This year, teachers said Monday, has been the worst year yet.

And morale is low.

“I used to get up in the morning and go, ‘I love my job,’” one longtime teacher told school board members Monday. “That’s not the case anymore and that’s sad.”

School Board member Elizabeth Schultz (Springfield), one of 10 members who fielded teacher concerns in a ballroom at the Fairview Park Marriot in Falls Church, said it was time for a solution.

“This has been brewing for quite some time,” Schultz said after the event. “We need to fix it.”

The board is planning on a work session on the issue in April.

Growing Responsibilities, but No Extra Time

Along with keeping pace with the state of Virginia’s Standards of Learning tests and a new teacher evaluation system, teachers are also dealing with new elementary school report cards that make grading take three times as long as it used to, assessment tools that require more data and analysis and the rollout of online textbooks, among other technology tools.

As enrollment swells, so too have class sizes, and with each additional student comes even more hours to prep, coach, test and assess them.

Yet no responsibilities have been taken away, nor has more time been given to accommodate them, teachers say. Pay also been more or less “stagnant for years,” they say

One teacher said he once had two and a half hours of planning time each week; now, it’s about an hour and 20 minutes.

Tasks have “been piling up like one rock after another on our chest while [we’re] being told ‘you better do well or else,’” one teacher said.

Since the beginning of this school year, Lynn Schmauder, a math teacher who has 130 students this year at Woodson High School, has spent at least 36 hours giving after-school help, nearly 20 in parent-teacher conferences, 37 hours replying to parent emails — and what amounts to 41 days, on top of her day to day responsibilities, grading papers.

The number of weekends she’s been able to put the work away: 0.

Schmauder, who is in her third year of teaching after 15 years with the Department of Defense, said she either needs more help or less students. Neither is an option about which she is optimistic, given the system’s budget forecast.

“What I know is that I can’t sustain this,” said Schmauder, who said she feels like she is missing out on her children’s lives.

Outlook and Solutions

The system’s proposed budget includes a 1 percent market rate adjustment for all teachers — but

Administrators have also said

Teachers called on administrators — from the superintendent to the leadership team to the leaders of each of the system’s clusters — to spend more time in schools, shadowing teachers to get a better understanding of what their day is like.

When teachers do give leadership feedback about best practices or pilots, it’s often not reflected in what is handed back to them, teachers said Monday, pointing to the recent widely-criticized rollout of an online math textbook  program.

Megan McLaughlin (Braddock) said Monday it seemed “the feedback that comes from the front lines doesn’t always come back effectively at the top.”

What’s more, teachers said, students are suffering, too. There’s no time left to host colonial days, or work math into a lesson on cooking — the kind of hands-on activities that bring concepts full circle and keep school experiences from being a string of “factoids,” teachers said.

Schultz said the board is in a better position than in years past to act on some of the issues outlined because “the tenor of the board has changed,” she said.

There are more people willing to ask difficult questions and have “actual engagement,” she said.

“The reason we ask difficult questions is because our decisions have consequences, and this is the bad side of those consequences,” she said. “We need to have actual engagement. We need to listen to the public.”

FCFT President Steve Greenburg and school board members said Monday was not the end of the dialogue — it was the beginning of a path that would hopefully lead at last to some solutions.

“We all want our kids to succeed,” board member Patty Reed (Providence) said, offering her support to a better classroom environment. “Let’s not forget that.”

See also:

Teacher Pay a Heavy Topic at Schools Hearing

Teachers To School Board: 'Our Members Will Be Heard One Way Or Another'

Teachers Say They’re Overworked

This article has been updated.

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T-Bird March 1, 2013 at 06:56 pm
I'll take that as a no.
T-Bird March 1, 2013 at 07:10 pm
Arielle, I'm not sure what comment you are reading, but as you see in this particular thread I answered Patty reasonablly, and was responded to in foul language and insults. So while you may not like what I said, believe me, this road runs both ways. As for what I said, i base that on the attitudes and writings here as well as the public image portrayed by both the school administration and the teacher representitives. This "opinion" I have has been formulated over the years, with several hostile exchanges. Weather you want to call them a union or not, they leave a bad taste in peoples mouth. As for my 'qualifications", I need no more qualification on the subject than being a taxpayer in this county. Is my opinion biased by some personal fact? Perhaps I have a personal connection to the county budget. Perhaps I'm just worried about my tax bill going up without good reason.
As for your personal aspersion on my education, HS was many years ago and nowhere near here. Sorry.
Martin Tillett March 1, 2013 at 07:31 pm
In my 40+ years as a teacher, one gets familiar with the full range of human behavior. You experience people that are exemplary in both academics and their interactions between their peers and teachers. You also experience people that are troubled, unevenly developed and have poor role models.
Inexperienced teachers are challenged by such students in a combination of ways sometimes subtle, sometimes overtly to create a classroom environment that disrupts learning. They are loud, obnoxious, mocking, intimidating all for effect. They are of course operating outside of the decorum that permits a civil and fair classroom environment that permits for an open expression of ideas without being insulted or threatened. Once challenged, they are the 1st to go running to the teacher to enforce upon the challenger the rules that they consistently ignore. When they are put in their place the first thing they do is disengage and go off by themselves to pout. This dynamic is called bullying, a human behavior across all age groups. You see them in schools, the workplace, the community and on the internet. They almost always conduct their shouting with anecdotal information, not primary sources or the citing of credible sources. Internet communities use the word troll for bully. Trolls rely on constant affirmation that they are being heard. The only effective way to challenge the internet troll is to simply stop feeding them by acting as if their shouting is meaningful dialogue.
T-Bird March 1, 2013 at 08:02 pm
Oh Martin, you sad little man. For all your supposed experience and qualifications, you have nothing to add but your own sense of smug superiority. While I judged what people were saying, you seem to be able to pass judgment on me (and others) as a person with absolutely no knowledge of who I am. You may not want to see it, but this road went both ways. In fact, I never made threats or comments regarding people’s background, education or life history. But you and a few others, now that I am trying to follow the rules as requested, seem to think this is the opportunity to get your digs in. What is it that you call a person who threatens and acts like a thug when the authority is looking away anyway? Who doesn’t follow the rules when asked? What is that called anyway? I call it a sad little man named Martin. And you’re calling me a bully?
Virginia Harlow March 1, 2013 at 08:12 pm
I probably shouldn't bother to say this, but the ever growing burden of bureaucratic blundering about and regulations, regulations, regulations are the primary problems. That and the huge numbers of school employees who are NOT in the classrooms teaching. There will always be children who fail to learn. Education is a process, and the teacher can only do so much. Students have to be eager and willing to learn, or they don't. It's like a ringing unanswered phone! When the culture dictates to be popular you can't have good grades, the decision isn't something the teacher can control. Hand wringing and expecting them to be parent, God, and teacher all rolled into one does no good at all. You will just have fewer teachers.
On the other hand, if there is no money, that's it. And today, that seems to be it.
Bill Sweet March 1, 2013 at 08:45 pm
Virginia, You hit the nail on the head. .. “burden of bureaucratic blundering....huge numbers of school employees who are NOT in the classrooms teaching....There will always be children who fail to learn.... Students have to be eager and willing to learn....When the culture dictates to be popular you can't have good grades....etc.”
This last one really gets to me. This is cultural. Where are the parents? When there isn't both a mother and father in the child's life there is a big chance of failure. I don’t know a way to fix that. It has to be done by responsible adults within the community. Not teachers, police, lawyers….. The community has to want success for their kids and are willing to make it happen. Didn’t someone write a book, “It takes a community”. Thanks for being a teacher.
T-Bird March 1, 2013 at 08:59 pm
Virginia and Bill, I agree with the both of you. Although I think the student attitude has changed for the better over the years and good grades are not as much of an anathema as they once were. I would add that the predominant “parent” culture is to have every child succeed, and failure of any kind is unacceptable. This ups expectations on both the school and students to an unfortunate level. Virginia, as you put it, not every child will succeed. Sometimes for want of will, sometimes for want of ability. It is, as Bill puts it, a social problem with no easy answer. There is also the expectation from the school side to remain highly rated, thus driving the need to measure everything. While both goals are noble, they both seem to be driving the regulations and metrics issues.
ELLTeacher March 2, 2013 at 11:38 pm
I am a new teacher to FCPS and I feel the pressure of the new teacher evaluation system. My principal was vague about what she wanted and offered little help. Then, HR referred me to my department for help who referred me back to HR. Clearly, no one understands whats going on. I came to teaching from a highly paid profession because I wanted to give back to the community and I was highly idealistic. I am finding this system highly unprofessional and the pay is not worth the hours before and after school. Teacher morale is at its lowest because of all the changes, humans have become numbers and data is the new "buzz" word..... People need to understand that teaching is more stressful than managing multimillion dollar campaigns. I am on the fence about leaving the profession, as so many new teachers have before me. Until people stop blaming the teachers and start evaluating the causes for the "education crisis" in this country nothing will be solved..I love my students and parents but I do not love this system and I will be switching districts first chance I get.
Kim March 3, 2013 at 12:07 am
ELL Teacher, I hope you will stay, despite the headaches. My mantra is "it's all about the kids" and that helps when demands get really ridiculous. Our county's families are wonderful and deserve the very best.
Arielle Masters March 5, 2013 at 02:16 pm
To those who complain about paying taxes to support schools when they don't have kids, I'd like to share this:
Bad education results in badly-educated people. Badly-educated people will have a hard time making educated decisions. If you don't want our nation to spiral downward as far as education, ability, and competence, if you don't want ours to become a nation of stupid people, SUPPORT SCHOOLS!!! Otherwise, you're asking for Idiocracy (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/). http://pandawhale.com/post/16158/i-like-to-pay-taxes-for-schools-even-though-i-dont-personally-have-a-kid-in-school-john-green (just the image: http://imgur.com/naquJhP)
Kathy Keith March 5, 2013 at 03:54 pm
I don't mind paying taxes to support schools. That is what taxes are for. However, we already pay enough taxes to support our schools now. The problem is not the lack of money for our school system, but the way the money is spent.
Just look at all the money poured into the Department of Education. Since its formation, education scores have gone down. Look at Head Start--for forty years we have poured money into this program. Guess what? It is not working. The myth is that more money translates to better education. That should be true, but , in reality, it allows people to throw money at programs that aren't working. Our property value went up this year and the state has now passed a law which will increase our real estate taxes for transportation. The Affordable Health Care Act is proving to be full of unmentioned taxes and the cost of health care is rising as a result of this law. The payroll tax has been reinstated(I agree with this one). As the Tea Party says: We are Taxed Enough Already.
Barbara Glakas March 5, 2013 at 03:58 pm
Regarding some issues that have been discussed on this forum:
1. Salaries – Some people have cited various salaries that they make as a teacher. A beginning teacher with a Bachelor’s degree starts at $45,000 in Fairfax County. They don’t break into the $51K range until at least year eight. Those with higher degrees (Masters and PhD) will earn more. 2. Having summers “off” – Teachers are not paid for the two month that they are “off.” They get paid a 10-month salary. If a teacher gets a pay check for 12 months, that means that they opted to have their 10-month salary divvied up 12 ways. 3. Hours – Teachers do not work a regular 8 or 9 hour day. Far from it. Most stay late at work, and most take work home over the weekends, grading papers and such. For instance, I typically had about 36-40 kids in each of my classes, for a total about 180-200 students. If I spend just ONE minute grading each paper, that would equal about 200 minutes of grading time for just one assignment. That’s how I spent my weekends. If I had been compensated for all those hours, I would be a rich girl.
Local Educator March 7, 2013 at 02:59 am
The biggest problem with education these days is that we are running schools like corporations are run with the additional task of teaching the students. All the focus on data driven discussions, meetings regarding the effectiveness of teams and CLTs and PLCs, improving the already exceptional test scores, implementing new initiatives, and trying one new program after another to close the achievement gap/increase test scores is equivalent to corporations trying to increase their profit margins. The difference is that for teachers, the work doesn't just end with the discussions... we still have a group of students we are responsible for educating. We still have benchmarks that we need to meet, instruction that needs to be planned, delivered, assessed, and communicated with parents/students. Furthermore, teachers need time to help develop well-rounded, wholesome individuals who can pave the way for the future. I encourage anyone out there that who thinks that being a teacher is easy and worth the 'big bucks' teachers make, to please walk in our shoes before passing judgement. For the record, some folks have griped about the teacher work days... In elementary schools, the two teacher work days in November are used to hold parent/teacher conferences, which means that elementary school teachers spend countless hours in advance of those meetings to prepare and effectively communicate with the parents.
Kathy Keith March 7, 2013 at 01:14 pm
Barbara,
I, too, taught school for a number of years. I know it is tough, tough work. I agree that teachers deserve more money, but, I think the problem is not the lack of funds, but the way the funds are allocated. Also, there are a lot of other jobs where people work many,many extra hours without compensation. My husband is one of those. Saturdays and Sundays were not uncommon and ten to twelve hour days were the rule. He was not a teacher. As far as the starting salary for teachers, it is not out of line with starting salaries for other professions--especially, as you point out, that teachers only work ten months. And, in those ten months, they get Christmas vacation, Spring vacation and almost all of the Federal holidays. Few jobs give that kind of leave.
ctv2000 March 7, 2013 at 01:16 pm
My initial post was the first time I had ever posted on Patch and I am so glad that I did. This entire thread has been incredibly enlightening and I want to thank everyone who has taken the time to add their 2 cents. I'm also happy to see that even FCPS teachers are unhappy with early-dismissal Mondays, and I urge them to petition FCPS and beg them to change this ridiculous policy. If such a movement occurred, I guarantee every FCPS parent would be behind you 100%. This strategy is so much more effective than publicly complaining about being overworked and underpaid (who isn't?) The way to change the system is to change the system.
That said, I think Virginia Harlow nailed the nub of the problem. I have scoured the internet looking for the ratio of administrators to teachers that FCPS employs and cannot find it. But I bet we pay the salaries of approximately 6 or 7 administrators for every FCPS teacher. That is why we spend $13,000/student, and $300,000/classroom per year. Does it really cost $300,000 to educate a classroom of students? Of course not. This is what happens when a bureaucracy becomes so bloated - the end result is always waste: a waste of teachers' time, coupled with a waste of their efforts complying with policies that prop up the system instead of the students. The only way to stop it is to starve the beast of its lifeblood: money. So let's trim the fat, get rid of redundant staffers, and let the teachers do what they are paid to do: TEACH.
Kathy Keith March 7, 2013 at 02:54 pm
ctv: I, too, have sought those stats. The hardest to find is how many people actually work at Gatehouse and in the cluster offices.
Also, I understand that some of these employees are labeled as "school-based" because they might spend some of their time in the schools. I would be very interested in getting this information.
Mike March 8, 2013 at 04:13 am
Solution: WORK TO THE RULE. You signed A LEGAL CONTRACT stating you would work X amount of hours each day for Y number of days each year. Only do this much. Arrive at 8, leave at 3 (or however the rules are in your state). Do NOT take work home, do NOT stay late, do NOT work over the weekend. You get an administrator in your face explain to them that you are working at 100% capacity in the allotted time provided, and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it, as you are abiding by the terms of your contract. All the bleeding hearts out there whining about how terrible their lives are have no one to blame but themselves. Nobody is forcing you to do any of it.
Barbara Glakas March 8, 2013 at 11:38 pm
Work to the rule never works. Most teachers will not walk out of the building at the end of contract time or refuse to grade papers when they know that the students need them.
Mike March 9, 2013 at 03:22 pm
Barbara Glakas, you are correct. Work to the rule never works unless you work to the rule.
Barbara Glakas March 9, 2013 at 06:18 pm
Funny guy. :-) But I think you might be missing my point as to WHY they won’t work to the rule.
Sometimes people address teacher issues by basing them on business models and that don’t always work. A perfect example is how some jurisdictions that try to link teacher’s salaries on student performance. That’s a good model to use in the business world because if an employee underperforms the employer can fire him/her. But in the education world, teachers cannot fire their students who underperform. So with regards to the issues that are discussed in this Patch article (which is teacher work load and morale), people have to understand what motivates teachers. It is not money. ‘Not that a teacher wouldn’t appreciate good salaries and benefit like anyone else, but teachers are very altruistic by nature and I believe they are more motivated by work conditions , which serves their primary end of being able to help kids. So throwing money at the problem is not necessarily going to solve what ails them. If you go back to the article you will see that teachers were talking about being overwhelmed with large class sizes, multiple assessment tools, not enough time to plan, etc. There weren’t saying “give me more pay.” Instead, they were asking the county leadership teams to shadow them around at schools to get a better understanding of what their day is like. It's like coaching a team -- you have to know what motivates your players to get the best out of them.
joe brewer March 9, 2013 at 07:43 pm
"but teachers are very altruistic by nature and I believe they are more motivated by"
What a bunch of hokey pokey. teachers altruistic by nature and you can prove that by what means or are we just supposed to believe it's because of your vast wealth of superior knowledge that you can make uninformed statements that have no basis in fact and expect us to take them at face value because you say so? c'mon man
Barbara Glakas March 9, 2013 at 10:54 pm
Joe,
I never said I had a "vast wealth of superior knowledge." I'm just expressing an opinion, as are you. I'm just suggesting that educational leaders can better meet the needs of their employees if they understand what motivates them. I think that would be true in many employer/employee situations.
Erica R. Hendry (Editor) March 13, 2013 at 01:05 pm
Hi folks,
Thanks again for all of the discussion. We're doing a live chat on this issue at noon Friday — some of you might be interested in joining us: http://vienna.patch.com/articles/patchchat-live-fairfax-county-teacher-workload Thanks for reading Erica
T-Bird March 13, 2013 at 01:54 pm
Sorry Barbara, but Joe has a point. To say "teachers are very altruistic by nature" is quite the self serving generalization. And frankly, the way you (as a group) and your representitives have acted over the past 5 years, it's not very believeable. And again, this article drops on the very day the County Executive proposes the 2014 budget, and budgets are about money. I somehow think that is not a coincendence.
Barbara Glakas March 14, 2013 at 01:54 pm
T-Bird,
Again, I was just stating an opinion, albeit a gross generalization. But if you wanted to look into studies on teachers and altruism, I’m sure you could Google it and find some. I’m not sure what “group” you think I am representing. I speak for myself. Like you (I assume) I simply occasionally see topics on Patch I am interested in and comment now and then. That’s it. No ulterior motives here.
T-Bird March 15, 2013 at 02:15 pm
Barbara, you could find studies on alien invasions and the 4th Reich on the internet if you wanted. No, I am not so soft minded to believe every blog I read on the internet as "fact". I understand it was your opinion, as was mine. As for what "group" you represent, you clearly indentfy and alinged yourself with the teachers in your comments. That was what I was referring to. I don't think I misread, but you never know.
Cassie March 15, 2013 at 05:33 pm
There are definitely lists which show how many staff are at each school and within administration. Maybe Fairfax Parents should put together a coaltion just to help out with some of this research - the start of an audit committee of sorts. Just from viewing the AAP sessions this year, it's obvious that the school board does not have enough information to make their decisions and then to top it off, the school administration then goes ahead and makes other plans that counteract what the school board has done verses working together in unison.
Barbara Glakas March 16, 2013 at 12:58 pm
T-Bird,
There is both junk and good information on the Internet. I was not suggesting you read blogs. I said “studies,” and, in that suggestion, I meant legitimate studies. As far as other issues go, I was not trying to represent or align myself with any group, but simply clarifying some statements that were made here on this blog. For instance, some people earlier in this thread said they made $51K and $61K as teachers. I’m sure that is true but I wanted to clarify that such salaries are more of a seasoned teacher and do not represent starting salaries. I did not take a position on whether the salaries were too much or too little. Also, some were saying how teachers get the summers “off” and I wanted to clarify that teachers are not paid for the two months they have off. Some suggested if teachers were paid more money they’d be satisfied. My opinion was that if employers better understood what “satisfied” teachers then they might realize that money was probably not the primary answer. That's it, buddy. Have a good day.
scottt k April 27, 2013 at 07:51 pm
Kenyon, Stephanie M
Grades 1-3 Teacher, ES Cunningham Park Elementary School $58,303
Kawsar Sultana May 22, 2013 at 06:49 pm
In my country, the two most reputable jobs are that of doctors and teachers. Doctors heal the body while teachers heal the community. I am a doctor back at home but I also used to teach when ever I had the time. It is my passion. However, in the US, I have seen teachers get denigrated time to time. Parents accusing teachers for bad grades, calling them lazy and what not. I agree there might be a few that fit the description, but let it be known to all parents, contribution comes from both ends. Pushing the blame on one side is not helpful.And children shouldn't be taken too lightly. You will be amazed at how smart kids can be only if teachers are given the liberty to train them the right way. Being an international student, I see the difference between kids here and kids back at home.
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